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Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MrBubble » Monday, 18 January 2016, 16:36 PM

The +2 is one of the best looking mikes, IMHO. It's art deco style and smooth lines are timeless.

Unfortunately, the original paint on these mikes is usually in bad shape. And if you are fortunate to find one with the original paint in good shape, it's just a matter of light handling before it starts to fade and wear. At over 45 years old, the original paint was not intended to last this long and it's probably lead-based which is not good either.

I'm repainting two of these mikes. They are in great shape (nice chrome, clean plastic & lettering, good cords) except for the paint.

A proper paint job is not difficult but it is time-consuming. I need to get all the original paint off, clean the bare metal, apply primer and allow to dry thoroughly, and then paint. I'll post pics at each step.

-- Jan 18th, '16, 15:41 --

Here is the mike taken down to bare metal using paint stripper and wire brush. This is the hardest step in the entire process.

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by jessejamesdallas » Monday, 18 January 2016, 16:59 PM

I did the same thing with a old D 104 I picked up off ebay a couple of years ago...Took it completely apart, sanded it down, replaced the Mic element, and felt bottom, then used self-etching primer on the chrome parts so the new paint would stick. Then pained it Coca Cola Red, with pearl white accents...Picked up some Coca Cola stickers off ebay to finish it out...Took maybe a couple of weeks to finish.
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Nice to hear someone else giving New Life to old Mic's!
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MrBubble » Monday, 18 January 2016, 17:02 PM

jessejamesdallas wrote:I did the same thing with a old D 104 ... Nice to hear someone else giving New Life to old Mic's!
Great job! I'm proud of that mike and it's not even mine :biggrin:

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Post by kskev » Monday, 18 January 2016, 17:04 PM

Wow, LOOKING GOOD Mr. Bubble!!!!
Yep, I always liked the looks of those too..... I even got one coming from the auction site that I just bought.
The paint and chrome looked pretty good in the pictures, but you know how that goes! Will see when it gets here how good it is.
Most likely I will be doing the same in the future!
Are you going back with the same color?

Yours came out looking good as well JJD!
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Post by jessejamesdallas » Monday, 18 January 2016, 17:08 PM

I've been thinking of doing a Turner+2 in maybe Candy Apple red or Purple...I'm with you on the design of the +2's they are timeless. And you can find new stickers for the Mic Gain...
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MrBubble » Monday, 18 January 2016, 17:16 PM

kskev wrote:Wow, LOOKING GOOD Mr. Bubble!!!! ... Are you going back with the same color?
The original color is light hammertone blue (which faded to green on many units). Rustoleum has this color and I tried it but it doesn't match the original very closely and it's kind of bland. So I'm painting one in metallic blue and the second one in metallic red.

Since I'm not a professional painter/artist and I'm using rattle cans (not an airbrush), I found it's best to use a paint that has some texture in it. Using a flat color shows every little blemish. When there is texture (e.g., hammertone, metallic) you don't notice any of these imperfections.

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jessejamesdallas wrote:I've been thinking of doing a Turner+2 in maybe Candy Apple red or Purple...I'm with you on the design of the +2's they are timeless. And you can find new stickers for the Mic Gain...
Yes, I purchased the mike gain stickers on the auction site. The original is not usable when you remove it.

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by Mr Peabody » Monday, 18 January 2016, 18:26 PM

That is one nice looking D104!
I will definitely be watching the progress on the turner!
I love the look of the classics .
What radio will u be using It on ?

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Post by MrBubble » Monday, 18 January 2016, 18:31 PM

Mr Peabody wrote:That is one nice looking D104!
I will definitely be watching the progress on the turner!
I love the look of the classics .
What radio will u be using It on ?
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Post by dgbacb4148 » Monday, 18 January 2016, 21:17 PM

:bounce: MrBubble and JJD, I have to give props when they are due, you two are to be commended for doing a great job keeping the oldie's alive, nice job to detail.
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Post by MrBubble » Tuesday, 19 January 2016, 17:13 PM

Here it is with a coat of self etching primer. The primer contains acid which reacts with the metal to form a bond. It's supposed to cure in 2 days but I'm going to wait a full week to be sure.

Interesting to note that when I stripped the original paint I did not see any primer coat. The original paint was just baked on to the metal.
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Post by jessejamesdallas » Tuesday, 19 January 2016, 17:38 PM

Yep, no since rushing it...Just don't do like I did and have it sitting somewhere, where flying insects can get stuck on it while your waiting for it to dry...

Think I had to sand down and repaint my D 104 at least twice because some critter decided to use it as a landing pad when the paint was still sticky! :x
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Post by Slim Pickins » Tuesday, 19 January 2016, 18:21 PM

You guys are making me want to tear one of my old mikes apart and get painting now.
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Post by Mr Peabody » Wednesday, 20 January 2016, 4:01 AM

I can wait to see the finished product! They are gonna look awesome.

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Post by MDYoungblood » Wednesday, 20 January 2016, 17:16 PM

MrBubble wrote:
kskev wrote:Wow, LOOKING GOOD Mr. Bubble!!!! ... Are you going back with the same color?
The original color is light hammertone blue (which faded to green on many units). Rustoleum has this color and I tried it but it doesn't match the original very closely and it's kind of bland. So I'm painting one in metallic blue and the second one in metallic red.

Since I'm not a professional painter/artist and I'm using rattle cans (not an airbrush), I found it's best to use a paint that has some texture in it. Using a flat color shows every little blemish. When there is texture (e.g., hammertone, metallic) you don't notice any of these imperfections.

-- Jan 18th, '16, 16:18 --
jessejamesdallas wrote:I've been thinking of doing a Turner+2 in maybe Candy Apple red or Purple...I'm with you on the design of the +2's they are timeless. And you can find new stickers for the Mic Gain...
Yes, I purchased the mike gain stickers on the auction site. The original is not usable when you remove it.
If you use a lighter gray primer then the blue it might lighten it up a bit.

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Post by Bombero » Wednesday, 20 January 2016, 18:10 PM

Hey,

Those are some very nice looking mics.

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Post by MrBubble » Wednesday, 20 January 2016, 19:20 PM

MDYoungblood wrote:If you use a lighter gray primer then the blue it might lighten it up a bit.

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Those pics are just the primer, although it doesn't look too shabby just with primer alone. I'll be apply the base color coats next week. I'm actually going for a darker tint, just a matter of preference.

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Post by MDYoungblood » Wednesday, 20 January 2016, 19:35 PM

Yes, I saw the pics of the primer, I know that Rustoleum does lighten up as it dries and the lighter primer (white) helps lighten up the the finish coat. If your planning on an enamel paint you can bake the finish to make it harder, an oven works great, I've baked small parts for some engine builds I've done. The canned paint had the instruction to do this, not sure about the spray cans and there are some YouTube's too.

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Thursday, 21 January 2016, 15:30 PM

My other D 104....
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Post by MrBubble » Thursday, 21 January 2016, 15:32 PM

Hey Jesse, those are two beautiful twins! After seeing the great job you did, I'm not sure I even want to post my pics ... you're a hard act to follow!

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MrBubble wrote:Hey Jesse, those are two beautiful twins! After seeing the great job you did, I'm not sure I even want to post my pics ... you're a hard act to follow!
Should have seen them before I started...The Coke one I think I payed $20 for, and the chrome was all pitted-out, rust on the PPT handle, element had a hole in it, felt was all torn on bottom....Defiantly project-Mic's.
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jessejamesdallas wrote:
MrBubble wrote:Hey Jesse, those are two beautiful twins! After seeing the great job you did, I'm not sure I even want to post my pics ... you're a hard act to follow!
Should have seen them before I started...The Coke one I think I payed $20 for, and the chrome was all pitted-out, rust on the PPT handle, element had a hole in it, felt was all torn on bottom....Defiantly project-Mic's.
You have not only brought these mikes back to life, you made them better (looking) than new. I think you should make a guest appearance on that TV show American Restoration!

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Thursday, 21 January 2016, 15:55 PM

Hahaha! Just wanted to be different...Was thinking of doing a Nascar theme one maybe next...I've got a Turner +3 that could use a make-over...Just going to have to wait till it warms up some.
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Post by Rabbit Ears » Thursday, 21 January 2016, 16:33 PM

Wicked mics!! Awesome!!

That took some serious work to boot.

Psst...can I have the green one??? I have a thing for John Deere. Now that takes the bank, the cake, and everything else! Great job!!
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Post by Mr Peabody » Friday, 22 January 2016, 0:42 AM

If I didn't know any better I would think them D104s
Where factor special editions . Those look great!
And mr bubbles, no need to get discouraged
I'm sure the turners will look amazing when your
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Post by MrBubble » Saturday, 23 January 2016, 11:54 AM

While I'm waiting for the primer to fully cure, I thought I'd add a tip for anyone else who restores their old mikes. In my case, I removed the base of the mike so I could work on the body. This involved removing the gain control and desoldering a couple wires.

Before removing anything, take a photo! Like they say, a photo is worth a thousand words and is much better than written notes. When I reassemble the mike, I will use the photo as a baseline reference for how everything is routed and connected.
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Good tip Mr. Bubble!
Cant wait to see the finished mic!
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Post by Rabbit Ears » Saturday, 23 January 2016, 17:32 PM

Photos are your BEST friend! I personally use a Canon Power Shot SX170 IS.

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Post by MrBubble » Tuesday, 26 January 2016, 16:42 PM

It's been one week and the primer has now fully cured.

On the first mike, the primer has an even surface and is ready for the base color. I painted it Metallic Blue (photos attached.) Needs to dry before I reassemble.

On the second mike, the primer had some irregular surfaces around the opening for the PTT bar (photo attached). This probably occurred because I did not apply the primer with a light even sweep and there was some excess accumulation.

It's tough to get this "just right" when using rattle cans on small items. When you're painting a large patio bench these minor blemishes are unseen and don't really matter. But they are very apparent on a small item. So I sanded down those problem areas with high grit fine paper and then a Magic Eraser. While this sanding smoothed the surface, it also removed the primer in some spots leaving small patches of bare metal. So I reapplied primer to this area. When it cures to a smooth surface I will paint this second mike Metallic Red.

It's an iterative process, especially when you're not a pro. The key thing is to remain patient and calmly rework as needed. Remember this is supposed to be a fun hobby to relieve the stress in your life, not be the cause of it :)

Next week I will try to get the second mike painted Red, then I will reassemble both mikes. Stay tuned.
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Post by cabo316 » Tuesday, 26 January 2016, 17:56 PM

That blue +2 is awesome. And thanks for the internal wiring pic. I have a +2 that was a freebie and has never worked. Opened it up and there are several wires loose and looks like a child went crazy with a soldering gun. I may be able to rewire/solder correctly with your pic. AND I might just try a repaint because of this thread. That mic is beautiful.

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cabo316 wrote:That blue +2 is awesome. And thanks for the internal wiring pic. I have a +2 that was a freebie and has never worked. Opened it up and there are several wires loose and looks like a child went crazy with a soldering gun. I may be able to rewire/solder correctly with your pic. AND I might just try a repaint because of this thread. That mic is beautiful.
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Will do, and thank you.

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Tuesday, 26 January 2016, 20:10 PM

Mic is coming along nicely! I like that color of blue too...Your right about the stress part too...But it's amazing how you can't have one without the other...Every time I start a simple project, like painting a Mic or whatever, before I'm threw, I'm always pulling my hair out! :lol:

I would like to get a air brush set-up to try on one next...Once you master using one, there's all kinds of cool effects you can do on small projects.
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jessejamesdallas wrote:I would like to get a air brush set-up to try on one next...Once you master using one, there's all kinds of cool effects you can do on small projects.
I agree on the air brush but the problem is that you need to practice with it enough to acquire the skill, almost like learning a musical instrument. I don't anticipate using it enough to reach the skill level where my results would surpass what I can do with the rattle cans now.

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Post by kskev » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 6:43 AM

Looking Good there Mr Bubble!
That blue is cool, Cant wait to see the red one finished!
I have the Turner +2 mic as well, they are just neat looking!!!

After seeing JJD's D-104 mics painted all up, it really got me wanting to do a project like that as well!!!
REALLY liked the "John Deere" mic!!!!
Looking around Ebay for a not so good looking D-104 mic that works good and should hopefully get one for a decent price!
Anyway, good job there Mr Bubble!!!!
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Post by Rabbit Ears » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 7:16 AM

Dang! That's really a swell looking Plus-2 mic!! :shock: :cheers:

My buddy has one that could use a coat of paint too. I do now a guy at an auto body shop that could mix up a batch paint and re-spray it. Yes to the lighter primer. Good idea!! :cheers:

He has an old Tram D-201A that he is using with a D-104. After he saw the D-104 mics that Jessejamesdallas posted.... now he is rubbing his hands together and licking his chops! "PETERBUILT" he grinned.

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 8:23 AM

The D 104's make good project Mic's to fix up. There's a guy that comes down to the Manchester TN. CB Break every year with some D 104's to sell that has them painted up in different NFL colors and logos... Think I've seen some of his listed on flea-bay.
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by Rabbit Ears » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 9:24 AM

I just shot flat black powder coat on my Turner SSK.... Beforehand, the aluminum decals came off really nice too.... Zippo fluid. Was easy to shoot grey primer and then the flat black.

Now looking at the John Deere D-104, got me! Now that's killer awesome! We got a Deere dealer here in town!!

Turner mics are pretty easy to take apart, you know. But prepping them......that's another matter. I just used JASCO paint remover to get the thing down to the pot metal and sanded with wet or dry up to 400 grit then soaked the housing and neck with vinegar for two hours. Then rinsed off with very hot water. When dry..... ready to prime and powder coat.

Thanks for the ideas guys. What does a retired Navy guy do?? Paint stuff.
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MrBubble » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 10:26 AM

Rabbit Ears wrote:... I just used JASCO paint remover to get the thing down to the pot metal and sanded with wet or dry up to 400 grit then soaked the housing and neck with vinegar for two hours. Then rinsed off with very hot water. When dry..... ready to prime and powder coat...
I also used JASCO paint remover to get these mikes down to bare metal. It works well but one warning ... it's very caustic to human skin. You should wear chemical-resistant neoprene gloves while using this paint remover.

-- Jan 27th, '16, 09:44 --

For comparison and further stimulation, I'm attaching a link to a website showing a Turner +2 mike and a clone mike that were hand-painted by a real artist. The site text is in Italian, but you don't need to read the text to appreciate the photos and how he was inspired by the paint jobs on some fancy automobiles. The results are a little too flashy for my tastes, but some of you might like it.

http://www.in3eci.it/index.php?fl=4&op= ... ng&idm=292" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by Rabbit Ears » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 11:04 AM

I used vinyl gloves my wife uses for her hair.... the same blue ones the medical folks use. Sorry I forgot to mention.... nasty stuff.
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MrBubble » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 11:43 AM

While I'm waiting for the primer re-do to cure on my second mike, I'll post back in a few days to discuss the pros & cons of using a Clear Coat over the base color.

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by jessejamesdallas » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 11:50 AM

MrBubble wrote:
Rabbit Ears wrote:... I just used JASCO paint remover to get the thing down to the pot metal and sanded with wet or dry up to 400 grit then soaked the housing and neck with vinegar for two hours. Then rinsed off with very hot water. When dry..... ready to prime and powder coat...
I also used JASCO paint remover to get these mikes down to bare metal. It works well but one warning ... it's very caustic to human skin. You should wear chemical-resistant neoprene gloves while using this paint remover.

-- Jan 27th, '16, 09:44 --

For comparison and further stimulation, I'm attaching a link to a website showing a Turner +2 mike and a clone mike that were hand-painted by a real artist. The site text is in Italian, but you don't need to read the text to appreciate the photos and how he was inspired by the paint jobs on some fancy automobiles. The results are a little too flashy for my tastes, but some of you might like it.

http://www.in3eci.it/index.php?fl=4&op= ... ng&idm=292" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for the link...That Turner in the link is along the idea I was thinking of, to do a Jeff Gordon D 104...Which is why I was thinking of needing a air brush to do the flames.
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by Rabbit Ears » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 15:52 PM

I sure dig your John Deere D-104.... our local John Deere dealer would just love to have it next to his Cobra 142GTL.

The colors are perfect!!
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Post by jessejamesdallas » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 16:37 PM

Rabbit Ears wrote:I sure dig your John Deere D-104.... our local John Deere dealer would just love to have it next to his Cobra 142GTL.

The colors are perfect!!
Color's better be perfect...It's done in John Deere Green and John Deere Yellow! lol
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by Rabbit Ears » Wednesday, 27 January 2016, 18:53 PM

Yuppp!

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MrBubble » Friday, 29 January 2016, 13:24 PM

Here's another tip on painting your mike that sounds obvious in hindsight but may not occur to you otherwise.

To start off this multi-step process, you're going to strip all the paint off your mike to get the surface down to bare metal. In this case, it doesn't matter what you paint or draw on your mike before you strip it because it's ALL COMING OFF. So if you have some ideas and visions in your head about the paint scheme for your mike, go ahead and paint on top of the original finish before you strip. And you can be quick and sloppy about it because it's just a quick look to give you a visual grasp of how your mental vision appears on the mike itself. I must have painted three different patterns before I decided on my final choice.

I'm attaching a photo of one of my "brilliant" visions. I thought painting the head read and the body blue with a black collar to separate these colors would look sharp. Sounds great, right? Well here is a photo of how it looked after some painters tape and quick sprays. I think it looks awful! But I wouldn't have know that unless I experimented first.

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MDYoungblood » Friday, 29 January 2016, 15:05 PM

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Looks a little bit like "Woody Woodpecker"except he had a white collar, waiting to see the finished product.

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by MrBubble » Friday, 29 January 2016, 16:49 PM

Hah, I thought it looked like a blue rooster wearing a tuxedo!

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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by jessejamesdallas » Friday, 29 January 2016, 17:27 PM

MDYoungblood wrote:Image Image

Looks a little bit like "Woody Woodpecker"except he had a white collar, waiting to see the finished product.

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sorta looks like this guy too -> :bigsmurf:
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by Rabbit Ears » Friday, 29 January 2016, 20:02 PM

LOL....HAHAHAHA!! Woody Woodpecker! :clown: :cheers:

I had to leave the computer and look at my little blue Plus 2 and imagine it being like yours. I can't. LOL!

That's killer!! Now to reassemble the thing!!
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Re: Turner +2 mike paint job

Post by PA629 » Saturday, 30 January 2016, 13:02 PM

MrBubble wrote:
Rabbit Ears wrote:... I just used JASCO paint remover to get the thing down to the pot metal and sanded with wet or dry up to 400 grit then soaked the housing and neck with vinegar for two hours. Then rinsed off with very hot water. When dry..... ready to prime and powder coat...
I also used JASCO paint remover to get these mikes down to bare metal. It works well but one warning ... it's very caustic to human skin. You should wear chemical-resistant neoprene gloves while using this paint remover.

-- Jan 27th, '16, 09:44 --

For comparison and further stimulation, I'm attaching a link to a website showing a Turner +2 mike and a clone mike that were hand-painted by a real artist. The site text is in Italian, but you don't need to read the text to appreciate the photos and how he was inspired by the paint jobs on some fancy automobiles. The results are a little too flashy for my tastes, but some of you might like it.

http://www.in3eci.it/index.php?fl=4&op= ... ng&idm=292" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just a quick post you may/may not find interesting. The pics of the black Turners in the Italian link before the flames were added is how my original Turner +2 looks. It was purchased new in 1965 and was made in black with the chrome ring around the head for Sears, Roebuck, and Co. by Turner. I purposely bought it due to the color being something other than that ugly (to me, at the time, anyway) blue, plus it was $5 less than what the Plus 2's were going for. Five bucks was a lot of scratch for a kid pinching pennies back in 1965. :lol: I still have the mic around here someplace in one of my old radio storage bins. Just a F.Y.I.
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