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Which antenna do you prefer

Wilson 1000
173
20%
Wilson 5000
229
27%
102"
196
23%
MR. Coily
22
3%
Predator 10K
169
20%
monkey made
40
5%
stargun
5
1%
55 antennas
17
2%
bozo made
10
1%
 
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Post by Duck Commander » Thursday, 12 April 2007, 13:46 PM

O yea 316 you got it right its most definately a 10K world :twisted:


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Post by SlimJim » Thursday, 19 April 2007, 17:32 PM

I was passing thru Dallas about a week ago, and a booming voice come across the radio. Finally a red pick up passed me and had a 10K mounted on the roof of his truck. I can't remember what he said he was pushing, but that 10K was def putting it out there...

Out of all the antennas I have tried, the Viper I run now has done the best job. Might have to give the 10K a try one of these days.



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Post by triple7wva » Sunday, 06 May 2007, 23:10 PM

im running a big davemade 1/2 wave right now. i wanna add a second one but i cant find one anywhere. so i guess ill be ordering 3 10k's here soon,2 for my truck one for my little car....J.S



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Post by MOONSHINER » Tuesday, 22 May 2007, 11:08 AM

I think 10k is my vote. IMO, it looks better, better rx as well.

I run a 102" because I have so much low hanging trees and such around these pineywoods. I run it w/out the spring and still have flat swr's. I have never noticed any swr change going down the highway though...



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Post by Roper » Tuesday, 29 May 2007, 14:12 PM

I had to say the 102 you just cannot beat them IMO




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Post by djrebel236 » Wednesday, 13 June 2007, 6:05 AM

Which antenna do you prefer
Wilson 1000
16% [ 27 ]
Wilson 5000
26% [ 43 ]
102"
17% [ 29 ]
MR. Coily
2% [ 4 ]
Predator 10K
25% [ 42 ]
monkey made
5% [ 9 ]
stargun
0% [ 1 ]
55 antennas
2% [ 4 ]
bozo made
2% [ 4 ]

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Looks like the Wilson 5K is better then the Predator 10k.
A friend of mine let me his Monkey-made for a weekend to check it out to see if i liked it, and i didnt.
Ive always liked Wilson Antennas...Dj


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Post by JerryH » Monday, 18 June 2007, 17:59 PM

Mr.RadioActive wrote:Do they use money, or do they still trade plets, and such for items at the market!!!! JK, LOL
Just wait, according to the US economists, our "pelts and your dollars are going to be of equal value by this fall. ;) :lol:

That's going to encourage me to spend a lot more of my money across on your side of the border! :D



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Post by Ghost Rider » Sunday, 24 June 2007, 6:29 AM

Wilson 5000 because it tunes great will TX/RX with the best of them. And it won't break and fall apart when you hit a branch or two. The 10K would prolly do better in a world with no trees lol.

!!!!!!!!!!!Its a WILSON 5000 for the real world!!!!!!!!!!



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Post by digus » Sunday, 24 June 2007, 7:51 AM

Yea, plus the 10K is just so damn conspicuous - That's my problem with it at least...



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Post by dilligaf » Sunday, 24 June 2007, 8:54 AM

Hi all,Over here in the sunny UK we have an italian antenna called a SIRIO....(I expect that will be edited) I have the s i r i o hp 4000,it is 2 metres long but i have worked all round the world on it on ssb.I also have the well rated predator 10k 27" single coil,which i am waiting to put on one of my vehicles.I am looking forward to see how they compare...then i can see if it is really a 10k world....



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Post by oknaz » Sunday, 24 June 2007, 9:35 AM

I'll stick with my WILSON 5K since it'll tune the 1st time ...My 10K won't tune lower than a 1.5 for some reason ...Even tho i'm running any heat except what's inside my galaxy it'll do just fine till i get my other radio



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Post by Mentor3006 » Saturday, 25 August 2007, 20:57 PM

I have to chime in to speak up for the 102" whip crowd. I have NEVER had a problem getting a 102 with SWR, sitting still, or going down the freeway at speeds in excess of legal limits.

There are a LOT of detractors of the 102 that spent a (I am going to censor myself here rather than have it done for me) load more cash on their 10Ks and Monkey Mades, but to be blunt, nobody has been able to prove either of these antennas work any better, they simply look cool, cost more, and are MUCH easier to break on overhead obstructions.

Coils = signal loss. How do you avoid signal loss, GO WITH A STRAIGHT SHAFT ANTENNA. Hmmm.... Which antenna gives you 1/4 wave without coils (half wave actually, but the other quarter is the ground plane...) The 102 whip! Why is simplicity, and durability so hard for people to accept?

Sure my 102" leans back a bit at highway speed. It doesn't impact SWR one bit (1.1 flat, Radio Shack meter, and Dosy meter). So AFAIK that argument is pure hogwash.

My 102 talks pretty much wherever I want it to talk with no problems. (skip from Gulf coast to Canada with no heater far enough for you?). So complaints about RX and TX seem to be null and void. Friend of mine shooting skip that night could only hear me, not the Canada station with his 10K.

Okay what's left? Okay, given that the 102 is a real pain in the tail in parking garages. Or is it? I LOVE the looks I get from parking attendants as the antenna scrapes and bangs along their ceilings. I HATE parking garages anyway.... And it's not like it will hurt a 102. Try hitting an immovable object with the tip of a 10K...

Now I am NOT saying that the center loaded coil designs aren't good performers, but a lot of the claims made by folks RE: the performance of coiled antennas just don't hold up to well established antenna theory. A coil based antenna, ANY coil based antenna, in theory is going to have poorer performance than a straight shaft.



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Post by EarthQuake » Saturday, 25 August 2007, 21:34 PM

Don't waste yer money on any other kind of antenna! IT'S A 10K WORLD!!!



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Post by MOONSHINER » Saturday, 25 August 2007, 22:06 PM

Mentor3006 wrote:I have to chime in to speak up for the 102" whip crowd. I have NEVER had a problem getting a 102 with SWR, sitting still, or going down the freeway at speeds in excess of legal limits.

There are a LOT of detractors of the 102 that spent a (I am going to censor myself here rather than have it done for me) load more cash on their 10Ks and Monkey Mades, but to be blunt, nobody has been able to prove either of these antennas work any better, they simply look cool, cost more, and are MUCH easier to break on overhead obstructions.

Coils = signal loss. How do you avoid signal loss, GO WITH A STRAIGHT SHAFT ANTENNA. Hmmm.... Which antenna gives you 1/4 wave without coils (half wave actually, but the other quarter is the ground plane...) The 102 whip! Why is simplicity, and durability so hard for people to accept?

Sure my 102" leans back a bit at highway speed. It doesn't impact SWR one bit (1.1 flat, Radio Shack meter, and Dosy meter). So AFAIK that argument is pure hogwash.

My 102 talks pretty much wherever I want it to talk with no problems. (skip from Gulf coast to Canada with no heater far enough for you?). So complaints about RX and TX seem to be null and void. Friend of mine shooting skip that night could only hear me, not the Canada station with his 10K.

Okay what's left? Okay, given that the 102 is a real pain in the tail in parking garages. Or is it? I LOVE the looks I get from parking attendants as the antenna scrapes and bangs along their ceilings. I HATE parking garages anyway.... And it's not like it will hurt a 102. Try hitting an immovable object with the tip of a 10K...

Now I am NOT saying that the center loaded coil designs aren't good performers, but a lot of the claims made by folks RE: the performance of coiled antennas just don't hold up to well established antenna theory. A coil based antenna, ANY coil based antenna, in theory is going to have poorer performance than a straight shaft.
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Post by BADGER305 » Monday, 27 August 2007, 6:11 AM

Well, when you ask a loaded question like this, there will never be an end to the controversy. Each application is different and various antennae work better or worse for each person's set-up. I imagine this argument has been going on since about 1958 and I see no end in sight.



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Post by Mentor3006 » Monday, 27 August 2007, 6:50 AM

BADGER305 wrote:Well, when you ask a loaded question like this, there will never be an end to the controversy. Each application is different and various antennae work better or worse for each person's set-up. I imagine this argument has been going on since about 1958 and I see no end in sight.
Kind of like going to a car enthusiast board and asking if you should buy a Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Nissan, or Toyota...

EVERYONE will have their own opinion (BUY FORD!) but that is what makes this a great country. We have the freedom to choose.



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Post by samskip » Friday, 09 November 2007, 7:45 AM

Base Antenna Shakespeare ABS-1600 True 5/8 wave big stick ....... This antenna still amazes me by what it does on the airwaves. It busts pileups while the feed point is only 7 feet off the ground.

If you can find one, they are rather rare, GRAB IT! They stopped making them because the cost of production with materials and being hand made was actaully causing Shakespeare to LOSE money ! High quality antenna!



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Post by Fat Albert » Monday, 31 December 2007, 21:51 PM

jessejamesdallas wrote:
231 wrote:How did I miss this poll? :-x

Over all best preforming antenna was the Predator 10K, 27" shaft Dual Coil antenna. Tuned flat across all 40 channels, on mfj. 100% Match efficiency, X=0 on all 40 channels...

Also tested were the other Predator 10K configurations, like the Single Coil, the 22", 17", 12", and 9" shaft's...All did well, but the 27" tuned the best.
Maybe I'm stupid, but on Clay's site the only 27" I could find is a single coil... who has the 27" dual coil???

Thanks!



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Post by Lonnzo » Tuesday, 01 January 2008, 8:56 AM

FatAl, Radioactive is also a 10k dealer, notice on the predator10k dot net site the phone number is same as Radioactive. I asked Mike about
the 10k vs. the 5000 and he said the 10k would be more work to mount and tune. Also the total height of the 10k was 7' or so as opposed to 6' for
the Wilson. Everywhere I've read shows a negligible difference in performance between the two at best; there seem to be guys who swear by both of them.
I'm going with the 5000 because of less bulk/ease of install, and the fact that I don't want it to look like I've got a Davemade 24 pill in the truck :lol:



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Post by jessejamesdallas » Saturday, 05 January 2008, 19:08 PM

Fat Albert wrote:
jessejamesdallas wrote:
231 wrote:How did I miss this poll? :-x

Over all best preforming antenna was the Predator 10K, 27" shaft Dual Coil antenna. Tuned flat across all 40 channels, on mfj. 100% Match efficiency, X=0 on all 40 channels...

Also tested were the other Predator 10K configurations, like the Single Coil, the 22", 17", 12", and 9" shaft's...All did well, but the 27" tuned the best.
Maybe I'm stupid, but on Clay's site the only 27" I could find is a single coil... who has the 27" dual coil???

Thanks!
Cowtown Antenna's (maker of the Predator 10K line-up) decided to quit making the Dual Coil 10K's with the 27" shaft last year...Mainly because the Dual Coil set-up, just has too much wind drag, and causes problems with the shaft breaking at the base...This is why now, it's only offered with the Single Coil's....

Now what you can do, is order a Dual Coil 10K, with whatever shaft you want on it, and then also order a 27" shaft...Then just unscrew the shorter shaft, and put on the 27" shaft... :wink:

This is the neat thing about the Predator's, is they can be fixed or changed around, just by unscrewing sections of the antenna...Everything on the 10K is replaceable... :wink:


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Post by jessejamesdallas » Saturday, 19 January 2008, 20:29 PM

Lonnzo wrote:FatAl, Radioactive is also a 10k dealer, notice on the predator10k dot net site the phone number is same as Radioactive. I asked Mike about
the 10k vs. the 5000 and he said the 10k would be more work to mount and tune. Also the total height of the 10k was 7' or so as opposed to 6' for
the Wilson. Everywhere I've read shows a negligible difference in performance between the two at best; there seem to be guys who swear by both of them.
I'm going with the 5000 because of less bulk/ease of install, and the fact that I don't want it to look like I've got a Davemade 24 pill in the truck :lol:
Most of this is true...to some extent...Both are good antenna's. And the height issue you mention sounds about right, if you are comparing the Single Coil 10K to the Wilson 5000...

As for as the "Tuning" go's, as long as your trying to mount the 10K on the roof, you shouldn't have any more problems tuning one, than you would one of the Wilsons, also going on the roof.

As for as "Negligible Difference's" go's, That's one of those deals where you just have to use both, and then decide for yourself! :wink: There are post's after post's on this from die-hard 102" Whip owners that decided to give the 10K a try, and then re-tired their trusty Whip for the 10K because of how well it received distant stations...As well as Wilson owners.

That being said, like you mentioned, some antennas draw allot of "Un-wanted" attention...and the 10K may do that! Plus, guy's that do allot of "Off-Roading" may be better off going with something like the 102" Whip....So it just boils down to which antenna serves your needs, without compromising performance... :wink:


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Post by whipsnapper » Thursday, 24 January 2008, 22:13 PM

Looks like the 102 is inching past the Pred. 10K. Watch out Wilson 5000, the old dog's chasing you down. Why don't some of you new-to-the-102 crowd chime in and let's take over the lead.

102 is still where it's at. Performance, price, and you know, height = might. And all that jazz.



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Post by super20dan » Wednesday, 05 March 2008, 6:04 AM

55 may claim to be an antenna expert but he shure is a lousey cb tech. every peice of equiptment i have seen him "fix" has benn repaired incorrectly. he lives in the same city as i do



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Post by 4600 Turbo » Tuesday, 01 April 2008, 12:33 PM

jessejamesdallas wrote:
Fat Albert wrote:
jessejamesdallas wrote:
231 wrote:How did I miss this poll? :-x

Over all best preforming antenna was the Predator 10K, 27" shaft Dual Coil antenna. Tuned flat across all 40 channels, on mfj. 100% Match efficiency, X=0 on all 40 channels...

Also tested were the other Predator 10K configurations, like the Single Coil, the 22", 17", 12", and 9" shaft's...All did well, but the 27" tuned the best.
Maybe I'm stupid, but on Clay's site the only 27" I could find is a single coil... who has the 27" dual coil???

Thanks!
Cowtown Antenna's (maker of the Predator 10K line-up) decided to quit making the Dual Coil 10K's with the 27" shaft last year...Mainly because the Dual Coil set-up, just has too much wind drag, and causes problems with the shaft breaking at the base...This is why now, it's only offered with the Single Coil's....

Now what you can do, is order a Dual Coil 10K, with whatever shaft you want on it, and then also order a 27" shaft...Then just unscrew the shorter shaft, and put on the 27" shaft... :wink:

This is the neat thing about the Predator's, is they can be fixed or changed around, just by unscrewing sections of the antenna...Everything on the 10K is replaceable... :wink:



That's about right you can configure them in a lot of different ways.

I had one configured in a three coil design. with the larger coil in the center with a 27" shaft it tuned to 68" on a mirror mount. It looked unique. :shock: :D



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Post by grape ape » Tuesday, 01 April 2008, 12:44 PM

Also check this info. On the poll I did it covers some other antenna's

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Post by DX4fun » Tuesday, 01 April 2008, 14:05 PM

jessejamesdallas wrote:Everything on the 10K is replaceable... :wink:
The best thing about the Predator 10K is that after you get tired of playing around at the local K-Mart parking lot key down event, you can pack that thing away in the trunk so it will stay nice and shiny. :wink:

Then pop your 7 foot Firestik on there, turn the amps off, and talk to the world. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Post by SwampHog » Tuesday, 01 April 2008, 14:11 PM

ive had 3...wilson lil wil or whatever its called...great for how small it is..and ive had a money make and workmann viper and suprisingly the viper has been great for me, better then the money make. I was able to get it tuined better and it works very well all around. Gonna get a pred. soon though :lol:



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Post by kg95 » Wednesday, 07 May 2008, 15:15 PM

I figured I'd get a 102" whip because so many people think it's great.

Personally I'm not that impressed.

It is somewhat better than the 4' fiberglass I replaced.

The SWR is not.

Right now I'm thinking the 102" is no better than a monkeymade
or 10K. Especially on the RX. You may be able to get
even better SWR with the monkeymade or 10K - I can not.

The 102" is a good performer for the price.

I'm highly impressed with the performance of
my 3 and 4 foot fiberglass. I'm into the Wilson
silverloads - they work way better than anything
their size. I think Wilson has the 'secret recipe'
that makes their fiberglass a little better.
They certainly handle the power I use.
From one pill to 4 pill.
I think they get heated up more by the sun.

I want to try a 5 foot fiberglass next.
Mostly to see if the extra foot makes
a difference. I do think it makes
somewhat of a difference between the 3 and 4 footers.
It seems like 3 or 4 foot are 'shorties'
for serious enthusiasts these days.

I'm interested in the Skipshooter brand also.
I hear they handle a lot of watts.
I see they make 'em in 5 and 7 foot too.
I have seen people write here that they like their
7 foot fiberglass. I think the rigidity of
fiberglass that size might be a problem if you
hit something. Maybe you can get away with it.



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Post by TX_Dj » Wednesday, 07 May 2008, 16:10 PM

My 102 is 1.10:1 on ch 1 and 1.05:1 on ch 40.

That's configured on a L-bracket from a mirror mount, attached to the tailgate frame at the back corner of the bed, with a heavy duty machined SO239 mount and a 1-1/4" length "stand off". With a standard SO239 mount, it's just a little higher across all 40.

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Post by 209 first class » Wednesday, 07 May 2008, 18:51 PM

jesse, you claimed in your prior post the predator was a better antenna because it tuned better. do you have any other info we can compare to? no one has offered proof, like " base station X ive been talking to for 2 years giving me 5 lbs dead key now gives me 7 lbs with the predator". the shortened coil loaded antenna can never work as good as the full size original it is imitating. any coil has loss. its pretty much cut and dried. if one antenna was really better, no other designs would be in use. ever look at cop cars ? whips. the question should be" what antenna is best for my needs in terms of power handling,and how much you want to be looking like a spaceship driving down the road. if mounted in the center of the roof, all the classic designs (top,center,bottom coil loaded whip, fiberglass, helical wound,) will work well. if these are the antennas that outperform others, doesnt anyone have any charts or numbers other than "it works better". that way others could compare to find out the real deal. 2zero9


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Post by Slim Jim » Wednesday, 07 May 2008, 18:56 PM

102" whip = working-man's 10K :lol:



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funny that you would say what you said about 55?????? b/c i live in the same town as well and all i run is 55 BUILT equipment and i have not had any problems and since you decided to go neg. i have some pos. for you to chew on ,at or.......lol but the best run in cb was done by a guy from fl and guess who the tech was?????? not to mention that i have been in jax. for 20yrs and i have never heard anyone with the handle your sportin ????? and just to be strait with ya none of the equipment that i see or that you have spoke of in any of your post would make it to his bench and make no mistake about that its a fact........oh just one other thing i forgot to mention he is a personal friend so if you have issues then be a man and speak to the man but don't run with ducks on 21 and be disruptive here and i'm pretty sure how you feel so neg. but if you bring junk to a tech and i read your post and it is junk don't get upset if you pay 2 dollars for it and want to play full contact w/guys that buy quality to begin with and you blow it up like he told you it would trying to do your sound effects crap and just aggravate others away from their radio when your not on here crying about how one of the best tech in the business did you a bad job when you know that is not the case and i hope this site will leave this post b/c this is the real thing i do not know this guy but i do know the group that runs with him and their ideal of radio is causing as much hate and discontent from cussing ppl wives to harassing retired cripple operaters that have nothing else but their radio not to mention the neg.behavior they display toward the new and miss informed and take away from the hobby that we all love and r trying to keep going this guy and the bunch he runs with r a neg influence on radio as well as for radio i mean just think if it was your wife r your kids r if it was your dad r if it was you that these guys making malice of one of the best radio communities in south east it truly is a shame and one other thing b 4 i hush if one of you guys were my tech r my friend i would express myself in the same manner i have kept my remarks clean and w/facts hoping you will not delete it I'm stagecoach .......here ....and on the radio .....I'm a real groundshaker and i tell it like it T.......I........IS............................i'm not hiding behind a fake id ....so why r u ????????????????????????????sorry boys now you know why i don't do drama................CAREFUL OF THE TOES YOU STEP ON WHILE YOUR TRYING TO GET TO THE TOP THEY WILL BE THE SAME TOES THAT KICK YOU TEETH OUT AS YOU FALL TO THE BOTTOM this quote was told to me a long time ago by a operator who took me under his wing when i was new so now it is my gift to you and to be honest it did not make sense to me when he told me but it is the reason i never bash r go neg. on anyone who is in radio trying to be positive notice i said trying we are all human we make mistake but rude behavior in a grown man???????????you r welcome to contact me my number is available here and i will be glad to explain why we don't allow you on the main channels like ch 1 the 20 lb club or ch 4 or ch 6 pssst... its your behavior stagecoach...............................A REAL GROUNDSHAKER...............................



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Post by Animal » Thursday, 08 May 2008, 4:55 AM

I have both a Wilson 5000 and a Predator 10K. Both are very good antenna. I prefer the 10K. It is lighter and seems to get out better and tuned to a flat 1.0, I could get the Wilson close, but never that low.


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Post by jessejamesdallas » Thursday, 08 May 2008, 5:07 AM

209 first class wrote:jesse, you claimed in your prior post the predator was a better antenna because it tuned better. do you have any other info we can compare to? no one has offered proof, like " base station X ive been talking to for 2 years giving me 5 lbs dead key now gives me 7 lbs with the predator". the shortened coil loaded antenna can never work as good as the full size original it is imitating. any coil has loss. its pretty much cut and dried. if one antenna was really better, no other designs would be in use. ever look at cop cars ? whips. the question should be" what antenna is best for my needs in terms of power handling,and how much you want to be looking like a spaceship driving down the road. if mounted in the center of the roof, all the classic designs (top,center,bottom coil loaded whip, fiberglass, helical wound,) will work well. if these are the antennas that outperform others, doesnt anyone have any charts or numbers other than "it works better". that way others could compare to find out the real deal. 2zero9
I claimed it tunes better....probably. Sounds like something I would say. :lol:

As for "Proff" the 10K works better than a 102" Whip...I have posted that info before, but not in a while. I'll see if I can find a link to the info, but really, what ever I type out, there still are going to be people who think the test or results are either fabricated, or flawed, so best thing I can tell ya, is to give a Predator 10K a try next time your in the market for a new antenna.... :wink:


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Post by 209 first class » Thursday, 08 May 2008, 6:57 AM

my point was its impossible for a predator to perform better than the 102" whip.(in a controlled setup, yes, a well tuned predator will work better than a badly tuned 120" obviously)it is less efficient by nature. are u guys still tuning your antennas thru coax? its not accurate. maybe thats why you are not noticing differences. unless its a perfect 1/2 wave cable , your meter will not read the same at the coax as the antenna feedpoint. the antenna will do its thing at its tuned frequency regaurdless of what it reads at the coax end. this means if you dont have an mfj to attach directly to the antenna,(via a male/male antenna connector availale at radio shack.)or grid dip meter analyzer, its not perfectly adjusted. the wilsons are the only antennas i know of where the coax is cut to read on the meter what the antenna is actually doing. thats why you cant shorten the cable on them, the cable is part of the matching system. i think the real truth is that these versions of shortened antennas work so close in performance to the 102"whip there is not much point in using one anymore because of unsightlyness, need for a more sturdy mount, overhead clearance ect. i know you are a dealer, of course i understand you need to promote the product. but facts are facts until we have proof otherwise. 2zero9


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Post by drdx » Thursday, 08 May 2008, 9:28 AM

Well said there 209. It's amazing we're still having this conversation over and over. It's just like the Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge deal, it will never end with all in agreement. I too think the performance level is too close to call once a certain level of quality is reached. That said, you'll still have the debating and bickering, and yes, the un needed mudslinging.

Theory dictates that something without a coil would mash one with a coil, but we'll never have any firm testing to convince anyone of that, or to see actually how much benefit a coil free antenna may or may not have. Could some of these coil designs have a radiation angle that is better in some cases for a particular type of operation? Certainly, but we'll never know for sure. If coils are that great, why don't we use them in our beam antennas? We do on the ham bands, just to squeeze that big beam on a tower, but at a loss. Why isn't the most popular base vertical out there a coil antenna? I run a coil daily but know that there may be some tiny bit of compromise, but it's so tiny I don't think I could ever measure it. The only time I'd make FOR SURE to go coil free is on a phased or parasitic setup, as I know that works, and element interaction generated by using coils is something I'm not clear on, and when you start mixing coils and straight elements, who knows what the pattern will be. I can say that on shootout pics and videos, I never seem to see a huge sky class antenna array filled with coil antennas. If a coil free antenna is the best there, where you're getting the most out of what you have, why not go coil free daily? Convenience for most of us is the reason, but in reality, it's hard to beat the price, ruggedness, and dependability of a full size whip if you can forego the height. -drdx


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Post by TX_Dj » Thursday, 08 May 2008, 10:12 AM

drdx wrote:It's just like the Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge deal, it will never end with all in agreement.
We can end that argument right now. Toyota Tacoma. 3/4 ton payload capacity. 6000 lbs towing capacity. 26 mpg unloaded. Get over it. :lol:



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Post by drdx » Thursday, 08 May 2008, 11:28 AM

Yeah, the Ford vs. Dodge vs. Chevy deal does leave out toyota, a true stand alone winner. Just like the 102 whip vs. pred 10k vs. whatever. That debate leaves out my new 1/2 wave "bunker buster" antenna soon to debut. :lol: A true 1/2 wave, no coils, clears bridges, and is dual polarized. Stay tuned. Gotta love a good debate. -drdx


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Post by Scrappile » Tuesday, 19 August 2008, 22:22 PM

I'm partial to my 102" whip.



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Post by Dirty Harry » Monday, 29 September 2008, 3:31 AM

Scrappile wrote:I'm partial to my 102" whip.
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Post by adjfire » Thursday, 20 November 2008, 21:47 PM

I have been using a wilson 1000. It performed awesome but the coax is starting to split after 7 years. Where can I get a 3 mag magnet mount as I want to try a 102' steel whip or would anyone recommend and antenna for my car. Its a 2008 Mazda 3 sedan!


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Post by Smokinjo » Sunday, 28 December 2008, 20:40 PM

I prefer my STAR GUN when it broke and all antennas so I sent it off to be fixed, the shipping was paid for by star gun and all new updates where made for free and was shipped back just like new. It can be changed to run one or two coils I love and always get compliments. I rode a the mirror of a MACK for 5 yrs and I could talk 35 mi barefoot most mornings on 19 and could hear at least 20 mi most of the time. There was never any complaints here!



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Post by super20dan » Wednesday, 31 December 2008, 5:31 AM

trying out a 55 anntenna-so far its impressive vs the 102 whip



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Post by BIGHOG » Saturday, 03 January 2009, 13:00 PM

Had been running the Wilson 1000 mag for years. Switched over to the 102SS without spring on a custom mount. The improvement is amazing :D :D :D :D :D Increased recieve, increased transmit, the whole 9!!! Took a while to get it dialed in but boy was it worth it. It is a bit more noisy but that comes with the added receive I guess. 102 all the way



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Post by Leiffi » Friday, 09 January 2009, 8:02 AM

I hale liked on mobile use the SIRIO antennas..

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Post by Russ » Sunday, 08 March 2009, 21:22 PM

I put the 10k and my wilson 2000 trucker antenna to the test today....and they both were getting the exact same reading on the tx and rx. And the 2000 was sounding better on the the other end...go figure...is it really a 10K world..



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Post by busdriver389 » Friday, 27 March 2009, 19:04 PM

Just wanted to put in my 2 cents. I've run monkey made(made a good fishing weight), king kong(thought something was wrong with my truck, no just humming noise comming fron antenna) . kept going back to my 10k that I've had for about 5yrs. I'm fixing to put it to test again, this time against a browing br51. I'll let you know how it goes.


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