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End Base Antenna Bans!!!

Post by KN6SD » Friday, 24 November 2017, 9:51 AM

Please show your support by signing my https://www.change.org/p/homeowners-wir ... reedom-act petition, it's called the "Homeowners Wireless Freedom Act of 2018", and it would end outdoor antenna bans in residential properties..

Let's try to put an end to unreasonable restrictions that have an adverse effect on a persons ability to communicate...

Thank you,
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Re: End Base Antenna Bans!!!

Post by MDYoungblood » Friday, 24 November 2017, 12:33 PM

Hello KN6SD,
Welcome to the forum. I fixed the link you posted, no need to obscure a link that isn't related to a sale of radio equipment. I know the ARRL had a bill last year but like usual nothing was done so it expired and the same thing is happening to this years bill.

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Friday, 24 November 2017, 14:54 PM

Ain't gonna happen... HOA's have as much pull as the NRA when it comes to home owners...Most neighborhoods that have HOA's would not want radio towers with large beam antenna's in their neighborhoods as they see them as "eye-sores"...

Want a radio antenna? Best move out of the city somewhere in the country or rural area where there are no restrictions.
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Post by Blue Ox2 » Friday, 24 November 2017, 15:24 PM

Well, I have the HOA issue at my home-20 and so far I am getting away with a Patriot 12.
I'm thinking of putting up an I-Com 2000 in the Spring on a pole and tripod in the front yard.
Mount a flag on it, below the antenna, and put a light on it so I don't
have to take it down, and then I'll be set.

Tune the I-Com for 10 m and make the best of the Di-poles and Patriot as needed.

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Friday, 24 November 2017, 18:01 PM

Blue Ox2 wrote:
Friday, 24 November 2017, 15:24 PM
Well, I have the HOA issue at my home-20 and so far I am getting away with a Patriot 12.
I'm thinking of putting up an I-Com 2000 in the Spring on a pole and tripod in the front yard.
Mount a flag on it, below the antenna, and put a light on it so I don't
have to take it down, and then I'll be set.

Tune the I-Com for 10 m and make the best of the Di-poles and Patriot as needed.

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If you can get away with it "Go for it!"...I know allot of the HOA's around here won't even let you have a flag pole. I think they will let you fly the American flag on National Holidays as long as it on a bracket mounted on the house so you can take it down after the holiday is over, but nothing permanent.
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Re: End Base Antenna Bans!!!

Post by KN6SD » Friday, 24 November 2017, 18:07 PM

MDYoungblood wrote:
Friday, 24 November 2017, 12:33 PM
Hello KN6SD,
Welcome to the forum. I fixed the link you posted, no need to obscure a link that isn't related to a sale of radio equipment. I know the ARRL had a bill last year but like usual nothing was done so it expired and the same thing is happening to this years bill.

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Thanks Greg, it's much appreciated...

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Post by KN6SD » Friday, 24 November 2017, 18:11 PM

jessejamesdallas wrote:
Friday, 24 November 2017, 14:54 PM
Ain't gonna happen... HOA's have as much pull as the NRA when it comes to home owners...Most neighborhoods that have HOA's would not want radio towers with large beam antenna's in their neighborhoods as they see them as "eye-sores"...

Want a radio antenna? Best move out of the city somewhere in the country or rural area where there are no restrictions.
Hi Jesse,

That might change if I can get 50,000 plus signatures on my petition... You just never know..

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Post by Blue Ox2 » Saturday, 25 November 2017, 1:14 AM

Right now I have a flag mounted in a bracket on the light post in the front yard.
It is up most all the time and I have a solar powered light focused on it
for night time. I only take it down in strong wind for concern for the light post.

This tripod I am considering doing is the same one I used at the Poconos in
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Re: End Base Antenna Bans!!!

Post by KN6SD » Sunday, 26 November 2017, 13:31 PM

KN6SD wrote:
Friday, 24 November 2017, 9:51 AM
Please show your support by signing my https://www.changeDOTorg/p/homeowners-w ... reedom-act petition, it's called the "Homeowners Wireless Freedom Act of 2018", and it would end outdoor antenna bans in residential properties..

Let's try to put an end to unreasonable restrictions that have an adverse effect on a persons ability to communicate...

Thank you,
Russ Brill

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Thanks to everyone that has signed the Petition, we have over a 100 supporters, and the number is growing everyday... Thank You!!!

Best Regards,
Russ Brill

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Post by 443 Arizona » Monday, 27 November 2017, 0:51 AM

there's more than one way to skin a cat, :cat: haha, can a guy still say that ? :icon_e_surprised: :icon_rolleyes: :lol: :lol:
dont wanna get peta(people eating tasty animals)upset....

there are numerous posts on this site of guys with the same dilemma and all the possibilities.

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Post by jon6667 » Tuesday, 28 November 2017, 11:18 AM

sorry but its not going to happen. the democrats will block the bill. just like last time. wish it would im stuck with a hidden dipole.

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Tuesday, 28 November 2017, 14:17 PM

There's ways around those HOA's, if you have big enough tree's in your back yard.
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Post by 443 Arizona » Tuesday, 28 November 2017, 17:08 PM

hey Russ, cant you claim that your part of the necessary radio grid(a ham) with the ability to aid in deciphering the left coast guana,,, :aaargh:

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Post by KN6SD » Tuesday, 28 November 2017, 19:15 PM

443 Arizona wrote:
Tuesday, 28 November 2017, 17:08 PM
hey Russ, cant you claim that your part of the necessary radio grid(a ham) with the ability to aid in deciphering the left coast guana,,, :aaargh:
Hi 443,

It will take a lot more than Amateur Radio training to figure out what the "Left" is saying :lol:

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Post by 973Kid » Friday, 01 December 2017, 14:03 PM

This is why I won't live in an HOA neighborhood. If I want to paint my house purple with hot pink shutters I will and if I want a cb anyenna on my property I will. I don't do well with authority, just ask my manager.

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Post by Bobcat » Monday, 04 December 2017, 12:33 PM

The one thing I never found an answer to.....

A while back I read the actual language of the bill being presented and it specifically mentioned Part 97 which is the Amatuer Radio Service. It did NOT mention Part 95 which covers CB Radio Service. Granted... the bills died but, if they HAD passed, does anyone think it would have done any good for CB? I would think that the HOAs would be "stinky" about it and only allow amateur radio antennas.... since technically, that was all that was covered under the bill. Any comments or thoughts?

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Post by MDYoungblood » Tuesday, 05 December 2017, 17:30 PM

Bobcat wrote:
Monday, 04 December 2017, 12:33 PM
The one thing I never found an answer to.....

A while back I read the actual language of the bill being presented and it specifically mentioned Part 97 which is the Amatuer Radio Service. It did NOT mention Part 95 which covers CB Radio Service. Granted... the bills died but, if they HAD passed, does anyone think it would have done any good for CB? I would think that the HOAs would be "stinky" about it and only allow amateur radio antennas.... since technically, that was all that was covered under the bill. Any comments or thoughts?

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Let's face it , none of these "Bill's" if passed are going to allow the individual to install a Monster Quad or a Log-Periodic Beam, it is going to let you install a modest vertical so to me that would include a CB antenna, a HOA isn't going to know if your a licensed ham or a CB'er and I wouldn't acknowledge to them either. Hope you have luck with this petition but it really needed to be started at the beginning of the new session in Washington.

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Post by jessejamesdallas » Tuesday, 05 December 2017, 18:03 PM

Yeah, HOA's wouldn't know a HAM antenna from a CB, or TV antenna... But as long as the HOA's can't see it, you can get away with it. Just have to be good at camouflage.
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Post by De_Wildfire » Thursday, 21 December 2017, 16:42 PM

As one poster said. Plant a lot of trees and use stealth antennas. Mine have been up for 25 years. The Imax 2000 painted green sticking out of the tree and the low band antennas are hidden in the trees. You can even put an antenna out on the front lawn right under their noses. The old flag pole antenna. When there's a will, there is a way. We been trying for years to get HOA's antenna restrictions lifted but in the mean time, you gotta do what you know how to do best. Attics are good for VHF/UHF antennas that reach repeaters too. Keep the high bands in the attic and utilize the CB and HF antennas in the stealth mode outside.


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