i got laphed at today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ironic]

i have a cobra29 classic,Palomar 500 amp,Wilson 1000 mag mount. and guys around here talk to guys in George,Texas every day. i tried to do it.the only one that heard me was the guy around here.then he started to laph then he told his Friends then everyone was laughing at me. well to get to the point. i have decided to get the general lee and preditor 10k or the viper 1 25k coil antenna. i need to know what kind of amp that will do the trick and does good on skip.that i can still use my 190 amp alt. some one said maybe a 4 pill but i think that will be to small.what do you guys think. i don't want any of them laphen at me no more.

[outlawmobile]

A 5 pill comp box should do the trick, you'll need a deep cycle battery to power it properly.I run a 5 pill Fatboy and and a deep cycle in the trunk and have no problem making contacts when the skip rolls.I would go with the Predator 10k over that Viper or whatever it is,the 10k is a proven performer don't know anything about the other 1.Shawn

[Idaho Annie]

Those meanies! How can they laugh at one of the good guys? Get your new stuff and blow 'em away! Jerks......

Annie

[Circuit Breaker]

i need to know what kind of amp that will do the trick and does good on skip.

Okay, first of all, you don't need an amp for skip. Having one will make very little difference. Second, there's nothing wrong with the radio installation you have now. They certainly weren't laughing at you because of your radio.

[jessejamesdallas]

i need to know what kind of amp that will do the trick and does good on skip.

Okay, first of all, you don't need an amp for skip. Having one will make very little difference. Second, there's nothing wrong with the radio installation you have now. They certainly weren't laughing at you because of your radio.

I have to disagree with you on the part about having a amp...(partly)

Now it is possible to shoot skip without one true. "IF" skip is rolling wide open, but even then the guys running allot of power, are going to just trample you to death! A amp is going to give you allot more swing watt's, and give you that Kick, that's needed to get your name called...

That said, you don't necessarily have to have a big box to shoot skip. Something as small as a 2-pill can give you the edge you need to be herd. (Just not on the Bowl)

But really, you can have a 16-pill Davemade, and still not get your name called, if you have the wrong antenna! Or if the one you have is not tuned properly.

What you have now should be fine, with one exception...That being your antenna...

Don't ever try and skip on your antenna, just to try and save a few buck's, if you want to save some $$$, do it on the radio, and NOT the antenna.

Lot's of antennas out there to chose from, so go with the one that has proved itself time and time again...But the choice is yours on whether you want to run with the Big Boy's, or just be another Duck on the Pond....

[ironic]

so your say my Palomar 500 witch that is probably doing 200 or more or less. to instead get the predator 10k do away with the Wilson 1000. and i should be able to talk to the other states. and thanks Annie that was nice.

[copyguy]

so your say my Palomar 500 witch that is probably doing 200 or more or less. to instead get the predator 10k do away with the Wilson 1000. and i should be able to talk to the other states. and thanks Annie that was nice.

I'm running a Palomar Hornet (about 80-100 watts), and it will talk. It did well with a Uniden PC66xl, and now with my Galaxy 959. And this is on a 4' fiberglass Wilson.

In the 90's when the skip was rolling, I could talk a little skip with my Uniden, a Palomar 400, on a Wilson 500. But, I had little knowledge, didn't really know what I was doing. Didn't get my name called that much.

In my opinion, I think the 2 big keys are modulation from the radio (LOUD but not over modulated), and a good match on your antenna.

From what I hear the predator is a good antenna, but the wilson is not bad either.

[jessejamesdallas]

so your say my Palomar 500 witch that is probably doing 200 or more or less. to instead get the predator 10k do away with the Wilson 1000. and i should be able to talk to the other states. and thanks Annie that was nice.

Let me put it this way..."Your chances would be a lot better!" Of coarse, conditions have allot to do with it...Right now, conditions are "Hit-and-Miss". But with the right antenna, your chances of "Shooting-Skip" will greatly improve...

You can have unlimited power, but without the right antenna, your still going to be a Mudduck sitting on the pond!

[ironic]

people around here do it every day .see I'm in Florida and one of them is to. he can talk to Texas and around states no problem. i think if i had just the right amp i could to.but i don't no how big to go and not haft to change my 190 amp alt.and i will try the 10k

[busman]

ironic, what the other guys said about not needing alot of power to talk skip is right. 50 to 100 watts works great on sideband. am might take alittle more. i had a kenwood ts-430s ham radio that had the cb channels in it and it had 100 watts. i talked all over the u.s. on sideband. get the big ol amp to smoke the locals :D prediter 10k for sure. i love mine.

[Circuit Breaker]

people around here do it every day .see I'm in Florida and one of them is to. he can talk to Texas and around states no problem. i think if i had just the right amp i could to.but i don't no how big to go and not haft to change my 190 amp alt.and i will try the 10k

I'm in FL as well...Tampa to be precise, and I can tell you they aren't talking to other states on a daily basis. Right now, with the sunspot cycle being at minimum, any skip that happens right now will more than likely be what is called Sporadic E or Es for short. Its name should tell you a lot...it's sporadic. You never know when it's going to happen. If the conditions aren't there, you aren't going to get out any further than where you live.

[Circuit Breaker]

I have to disagree with you on the part about having a amp...(partly)

Now it is possible to shoot skip without one true. "IF" skip is rolling wide open, but even then the guys running allot of power, are going to just trample you to death! A amp is going to give you allot more swing watt's, and give you that Kick, that's needed to get your name called...

Not true. A lot of that will depend on conditions and the location of those you're "competing" against. I have no problem talking to anyone I call using just 15 watts.

[ironic]

i hear them and i live in sebring florida.and .the guy today was talking from around here some where i don't know he said florid.but he could barely hear me me. i could hear him fine but the people he was talking to lived in george and texas because i heard them say so.i couldn't get to them they didn't respond just to the other guy.and they did it for almost an hour before i got mad and turned my radio off.

[SmallTruckBigRadio]

If your Palomar 500 is only doing 200 watts. Then your radio may be falling way short of the 40+ watts it needs to give full output. A new SWP Mosfet General Lee would be a nice first step to nearly doubling your final power. I like the idea of doing things one step at a time, in order to have time to appreciate each gain.

A 50 watt radio + a 500 watt Palomar + the Wilson 1000, is nothing to laugh at, unless your competitors are doing 1000 watts plus.

Word of caution: There is a chance, that in skipland, you may have the stronger signal, but those on the other end may simply not answer you because you're not in "the click", or they don't like the way you sound. Complimenting their radios, is one way to get an answer.

Or, keep your setup, keep your money, and get Annie to punch them all in the nose....

[ironic]

my cobra 29 got a peak and tune on it it does just a little bit more than 5 watt. but i think manual on the amp said about 4 to 5 watt input on the amp max. yes Annie could punch them put i don't know where they live.

[Idaho Annie]

Just say the word and I'm there! I've had clickish people not talk to me....girl invading the clubhouse I guess....

F 'em....pardon my French....Ironic, life is too short to worry about jerks!

Annie

[ironic]

i wasn't worried about them .i just need to step up the game a little bit.then i will be heard .they will be saying turn that down. i just needed to know what amp will do the trick.some one on here hast to know. thanks Annie for watching my back.

[doctor]

They are pulling your leg, sun spots are low to nothing, skip is in/out here one minute gone the next, and it will be this way until the sun spots come back or start again, next year my friend. You are talking on am I presume<ancient modulation>, so the guys are just hitting the skip when it is at it's peak nothing more, and remember there are hundred's on each channel when the skip comes in and your just one of them.
I talk everywhere but 99 percent on ssb and use 50 watts at the maximum to talk to them, nothing more.
If you want to talk real skip try ssb, also I wouldn't bother to talk to those agitators for a while<they probably figured you are new> .
Join a club<CB>, have some fun when the band opens or when the club meets for a net, you might not hear them since conditions are low but you might have some members near you, and I talk to a few club members in your area <Florida>, when the band opens on am or ssb.
Just my 2 cents worth
73
DOCTOR
CEF 795/AK795/AE985

[ironic]

do you know where in Florida .do they have a web site. i used to live in Indiana where do you live in Indiana.i miss living with the real dirt.

[distortion69]

They aren't really talking to Tx everyday, as theres not been much skip. They are pulling your leg.

Texas came in down in GA today, but it was the first time in a while.

If I were in your shoes, here's what I'd do:

A. Predator 10k antenna w/ rg213 coax set to 1.1 swr.
B. Nice radio.. galaxy dx45mp, swp general lee, connex 3300hp, modded cobra 29.. whatever your taste is.
C. 2x8 amp & a good power meter to monitor it.

With the 2x8, you might have to add a little extra battery power to be safe with 190 amp alt, as it's on the ragged edge, but it should run it.. you can run a 2x6 no problem tho... but I would opt for the 2x8.. worst case you can have that 190 amp beefed up if it ever gives out. Just what I'd do.. you might decide to go with a 2x6.

But I can tell you this.. with a 2x8 and predator 10k w/ connex 3300hp in my old s10, I talked skip everytime it came in.. Even managed to talk to a few forum guys on the bowl a few times

Peace,
Josh

[Kluckin Around]

Hey there ironic Duckplucke you should try one of the davemade amps they really do the job!!!

[ironic]

ya I'm going to look around at them.i just needed to know what size. ill look around at the 2x6 and 2x8.and see if that will work.

[Duck Commander]

Aw cumon man dont wimp out and go with 2x6 go for the juggler and get the 2x8 and
smack em around

LOL J/K with ya there aint nuthin wrong with a 2x6 but just think if you get a 2x6 you
will be telling yourself for the rest of your life MAN HOW WOULD MY LIFE HAD TURNED
OUT IF ONLY I WOULDA LISTENED TO THAT DAMN DUCK TELLIN ME TO GET THE 2x8

hahahaha either way man you guna get their attention if your not smashin em.

I get alot of folks attention with my lil 1x4 so smash away

[ironic]

thanks. and that's exactly what i would do.is think i should of got that 2x8.but i got to think about dollar.but by the time i by two amps because of my curiosity .i should just buy the 2x8. how far do you go out with that 1x4.

[fireball894]

Why would you want to spend a ton of money to talk to people that are trying to use you as a joke anyway? Going from a Wilson to a 10K and maybe just doubling your deadkey may be a move up, but not what youre thinking it is. Want to gain just one S unit (pound)? You would have to multiply you dead key times 4.

If I were you I would enjoy what you have and talk to people that are more worthwhile. I sure as hell wouldn't spend money to talk to them.